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Beyond Financial Independence With Edmund Tee
Episode 143

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Episode Guide

Episode Summary:

Exploring life beyond financial independence unearths the deeper questions of fulfillment and purpose after escaping the corporate grind. The discussion centers on transitioning from focusing solely on financial goals to finding meaning and impact in post-FI life. Ed, a special guest, shares insights from his journey to financial independence and how it fueled his relentless work ethic and desire to contribute to the community. Jonathan, Brad, and Ed examine the necessity of purpose and connection, emphasizing that financial independence can lead to avenues of service and impact that enrich lives more than retirement alone. The conversation also highlights the formation of the ChooseFI International Foundation aiming to enhance financial literacy, particularly for underserved communities and military service members, underlining the value of having a profound mission in life.

Episode Timestamps

ChooseFI Podcast Episode Show Notes: Beyond FI

Episode Summary:
Exploring life beyond financial independence raises crucial questions about purpose and fulfillment. Financial independence is often perceived as a threshold for retirement; however, many individuals struggle with the lack of direction thereafter. Ed, a guest on the podcast, illustrates this transition as he shares his journey toward financial independence and the importance of remaining active and engaged. Instead of lounging on the beach, Ed emphasizes the fulfillment that comes from organizing community projects and volunteering for important causes, particularly aiding military veterans. The episode delves into how skills developed through life experiences can open doors to impactful work.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Introduction to Beyond FI

    • Discussion about what to do after leaving corporate America.
    • Reflecting on the challenges of achieving financial independence without a purposeful plan.
  • Ed's Path to Financial Independence

    • Ed shares his journey, emphasizing hard work and education as keys to success.
    • Acknowledgment of experiences in Singapore and the military contributing to his skill set.
  • The Role of Skills in Community Engagement

    • Importance of organization and community-building skills.
    • Ed's experience organizing military operations demonstrates his ability to coordinate effectively.
  • Volunteering and Organizing for Impact

    • Ed's involvement in volunteer work after achieving financial independence.
    • Engaging with military veterans to help them navigate challenges post-service.
  • Conclusion and Call to Action

    • Encouragement for listeners to consider how they can contribute to their communities.
    • Information about the ChooseFI International Foundation and how to get involved.

Key Insights:

  • Fulfillment After Financial Independence:

    • Few people are fulfilled simply lounging; purpose drives true satisfaction.
  • Core Components of Fulfillment:

    • Autonomy, mastery, purpose, identity, and connection are vital to fulfillment.
  • Empowering Others:

    • The goal is to guide individuals to find deeper significance in their lives.
  • Community Engagement Impact:

    • A small group of committed citizens can drive significant change.

Actionable Takeaways:

  • Reflect on personal goals beyond financial independence and consider ways to stay active in community service.

Discussion Questions:

  • What does 'beyond financial independence' mean to you?

Episode Mentions:

  • ChooseFI International Foundation's initiatives targeted at spreading financial literacy, especially to military service members.

Related Resources:

  • Visit ChooseFI.com/help to learn more about how to get involved with community initiatives.

Hosts:

  • Jonathan Mendonsa - Co-host of ChooseFI, facilitates discussions on financial independence and purpose.
  • Brad Barrett - Co-host of ChooseFI, focused on spreading the message of financial independence.
  • Ed - Special guest discussing his journey and contributions post-financial independence.

Podcast Intro:
"You're listening to ChooseFI. The blueprint for financial independence lives here..."

Podcast Extro:
"You've been listening to ChooseFI Podcast, where we help middle-class America build wealth one life hack at a time."

Finding Purpose Beyond Financial Independence

Achieving financial independence (FI) is a remarkable milestone, often celebrated as the culmination of a long journey toward wealth and self-sufficiency. However, as many have discovered, reaching FI can sometimes lead to a profound questioning of one’s purpose and fulfillment in life. This article aims to guide you on what to consider after obtaining financial independence and how to harness your skills to make a meaningful impact in your community.

Understanding Life Beyond FI

After financial independence, many face what has been termed the "retirement paradox"—the challenge of filling the time that once was occupied by work. Instead of lounging endlessly on a beach, it is essential to engage actively in more fulfilling pursuits. Whether it is volunteering, organizing community projects, or exploring new passions, finding purpose becomes a crucial factor in ensuring long-term happiness and satisfaction.

Key Aspects of Personal Fulfillment

To cultivate a sense of fulfillment post-FI, consider the following principles:

  • Autonomy: Embrace your newfound freedom to make choices that resonate with your values and interests.
  • Mastery: Seek opportunities to develop new skills or hone existing ones. This continuous learning can lead to a sense of achievement and growth.
  • Purpose: Identify causes that matter to you. Whether it's supporting veterans or promoting local initiatives, having a cause can imbue your life with meaning.
  • Connection: Foster relationships with like-minded individuals who share your interests and can provide support during this transition.

Engaging Your Community

One of the most significant ways to find purpose beyond FI is through community engagement. By involving yourself in local projects, you can make tangible differences in the lives of others, which in turn enriches your own life.

Volunteering Opportunities

Volunteer work can take many forms. Consider the following options:

  • Local Nonprofits: Get involved with organizations that align with your interests, whether it’s helping the homeless, fostering at-risk youth, or wildlife conservation.
  • Veteran Support: Many veterans struggle with various challenges after service. Providing mentorship, financial education, or career support can be invaluable.
  • Disaster Assistance: Engage with local disaster recovery programs. Your organizational skills can facilitate effective aid distribution and recovery efforts.

Skills Utilization in Community Work

As you consider how to contribute, think about the skills you have cultivated over time. Your expertise in organization, project management, or teaching can be pivotal in guiding groups and initiatives to success. For example:

  • Organizing Events: Leverage your abilities to plan and execute community fundraising events, educational workshops, or local awareness campaigns.
  • Creating Educational Programs: Develop curriculums or workshops aimed at teaching financial literacy to teens and adults, especially in underserved areas.

The Importance of Financial Literacy

Financial literacy is often overlooked in many communities, yet it is a crucial component of personal empowerment. Helping others gain financial skills can create enduring impacts that lift entire communities.

How to Promote Financial Literacy

  • Workshops: Host financial literacy workshops in schools or community centers to educate individuals about budgeting, saving, and investing.
  • Resource Development: Create accessible resources, such as informational pamphlets or online courses, that demystify financial concepts.
  • Mentorship: Provide one-on-one guidance to individuals who need help managing their finances, ensuring they have the tools necessary for a stable financial future.

The Impact of Community Engagement

Embracing a life of service and engagement offers several benefits:

  • Personal Satisfaction: Engaging in meaningful work restores a sense of purpose and belonging.
  • Skill Development: Practical experience gained through community projects enhances your own skill set, preparing you for future endeavors.
  • Legacy Building: By giving back, you contribute to a legacy that influences future generations, promoting values of service and engagement.

Conclusion: Your Journey Beyond FI

Achieving financial independence is just the beginning of a new chapter in your life. To prevent the void that can sometimes accompany this accomplishment, focus on exploring new engagements, building community ties, and nurturing your passions. Remember, purpose is not merely found in relaxation but in contribution. As you embark on this journey, evaluate your goals beyond FI, consider how you can make a difference, and remember that your skills are vital tools for impactful work.

By sharing your time and abilities, you can create change not only for yourself but also for others. Embrace this opportunity to shape your next chapter into one that embodies the values of connection, service, and purpose. Together, we can uplift our communities and inspire a movement toward a more engaged, fulfilling life post-FI.

Edmund Tee talks about reaching FI and the goals of teaching more people worldwide about Financial Independence.

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Beyond FI

Although the idea of permanently sipping Pina Coladas on the beach sounds like a dream, the majority of FI people do not seem to take that route. What are you going to do with all of your free time once you've walked away from the nine to five?

[Financial Independence] is something we think about all the time; and 'how do we spread this message, what do we have to do?' And Jonathan, we've talked about autonomy, mastery, purpose, identity, and connection. And I think when you're looking for something beyond FI that one, or many, of those five items, those are what light you up.

Instead of sailing off into the sunset after reaching FI, Ed works hard to spread the message of Financial Independence as part of the ChooseFI team.

Related: What Does Retirement Really Mean?

Ed's Path To FI

Ed grew up in Singapore in the 1970s. The country had recently obtained its independence from Great Britain. The country had no natural resources, so it was a third world country without a lot to go around.

All we had was two things: The ability to educate and learn. And then the ability to work really, really hard.

Ed grew up in these conditions with a single mother. Based on that, it was critical to always be learning. He worked diligently to be frugal and optimize as much as possible in order to save a few dollars. That mentality has stuck with him throughout his life.

My wife often tells me, 'honey, you don't have to do this anymore.' And I still do because, you know what, it's a part of my DNA now.

Being Coachable

Although Ed had been building his ability to learn from a young age, he did not recognize it until he was serving in the Singapore army. His job was to travel ahead of units in partner countries and set things up for the unit. As a part of this job, he had to learn the languages and customs of the area to be accepted. He realized that he was able to learn and take direction from those that came before him.

Organizational Skills

Not only did he realize that he was coachable and able to learn but also that he had exceptional organizational skills.

I was in a [military] unit where I'm not the fastest guy, I'm not the strongest guy. I could not shoot as well as them, I couldn't do a lot of stuff as well as them but I could organize. That was my superpower. I could organize. I could get things done...every single thing that's needed for a complex operation to take place, I was able to do that.

These hard-core organizational skills started to develop in his childhood. Ed did not grow up with a lot of things, so it required him to work on optimization, finding loopholes, and finding ways to get things done outside of the norm.

...you trade in time to do research and to experiment and to poke holes at concepts and hypotheses and then find a better way. That in itself is a very multifaceted endeavor. And so I think, even, like as a teenager, I was already knee-deep in trying to figure things out, make it better and organization came as a by-product of that.

Eventually, Ed discovered that big companies value that world-class organizational capacity. Through word of mouth, he was able to use this organization skills to support his family.

If you can cultivate a skill set that is in high demand, then you can get virtually any job you want.

Here's an image of Ed (center with black shirt) and a team he put together at Microsoft. Together they built a portable disaster shelter and inventory management system for the Red Cross.

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How To Approach Organizing A Large Event

One of the most recent endeavors that Ed successfully managed was the Evening of Financial Independence in Richmond. It was a seamless event that introduced 500 people to the Financial Independence movement.

Ed started planning with a template that his wife, an event planner, created. He executed the template to the letter. And anticipated any foreseeable issues.

Anyone can have a template but you need to be able to communicate that with your team.

For the Richmond event, Ed held a call with all of the volunteers before the event. Each volunteer learned exactly what they needed to do so that the event could go off without a hitch. The goal is for everything to seem effortless, that is the hallmark of a great event.

Example Of Organizational Skills In Action

Let's dive into an example of how organizational skills can serve a company.

In this example, a small HVAC company wants to bring in a consultant to help them scale and grow. If Ed was asked to come in and help them build a system to scale and grow, then this is what he would do.

First, he would start out by gathering intelligence. It may take a few weeks to learn what the current state of the company is, take an inventory of team members and current resources.

It is really important to get a good understanding where things are at for you to able able to get where you want to go. It's almost a no-brainer.

After getting a good sense of where the company is at, he would feel comfortable to start giving advice. He would cover three aspects of the business.

Lead Generation And Marketing

If you want to grow, then you need revenue streams to build that growth. Luckily, there are many levers to pull.

The easiest is to latch on to your current fan base. After tapping into your current fans, you'll need to cast a wider net to attract a cold audience of people that have never heard of the company. This could be done through traditional media such as TV or radio.

Additionally, content marketing such as podcasts, blogs, and some degree of paid marketing could be used to fuel that growth.

Fulfilling Demand

Once you have built the demand, it is time to deliver. He would make recommendations to scale up operations to run smoothly.

For example, there would need to be staff to take customer calls and provide amazing customer service. Plus, many field staff to physically deliver the HVACs. In the field, these technicians would serve as ambassadors to the brand because they show up to an entire neighborhood.

The company would need to train these field technicians to put their best foot forward with no shabby dress, no food in the car, no smoking, and no illegal parking.

It goes without saying; do a good job and clean up after themselves.

Scaling The Business

If the goal is to grow, then the company will need to figure out how to maintain a bigger fleet and how to train new hires effectively. The company could also look into how to optimize their prices based on volume discounts.

Throughout all of this, the organizational consultant would be able to manage the company effectively. HVAC was picked randomly for an example but this is actionable for any kind of business, finances, and even your personal life. This kind of skill set will always be in demand and valuable.

Post-FI

With his amazing organizational capacity, Ed led a successful career that included the military, entrepreneurship, start-up culture, and Microsoft. By all standards, Ed has reached fat FI with his wife. However, he never wanted the RE part of that equation.

I'm here because I believe in FI, Financial Independence. The RE has never resonated with me...I'll never retire.

In fact, his wife disagrees that he ever retired. Instead, Ed spends his time homeschooling his children and contributing to worthwhile projects. A few of these projects include his state's disaster recovery program and his city's firefighters' benevolent fund.

The thing about volunteering and being engaged with your community... is that you start seeing more and more places where help is needed.

As he continued to expand his scope, he realized that many former service members are in distress. Some are living out of their cars and have difficulty getting an appointment with the VA. These people have given the best years of their life to the service of the nation but then fallen through the cracks. Ed started working with these service members to help them address their financial situation.

I felt that living in a car would just be a massive contributor to whatever other issues they have. It could be PTSD or depression. Just the mere fact that someone who served has to live in a car, something was wrong there. So I went about trying to figure out financially how do we bring them back a little bit from the precipice.

Ed helped a few on find jobs. He felt that this work was valuable, but not scalable. Ed wanted to help service members before it ever got to this point. When someone signs up to serves this country, they have everything they need for a soft landing afterward. With the right educational tools along the way, they could leave the service in a much better place.

Listen to Brad and Jonathan's thoughts about this episode here.

Ed And ChooseFI

With that frame of mind, Ed approached Brad and Jonathan about working together. Ed realized that the message was resonating with people and it was a real opportunity to do some good.

The Universe has handed us an opportunity to make the world a better place. This message is resonating with people and it seems to break through where maybe just pure academics doesn't seem to do that.

Ed asked it if would be possible for ChooseFI to start a nonprofit with the stated goals of bringing financial literacy to the people that needed it the most. The military and education system were the first places with that need.

ChooseFI International Foundation

From that idea, the ChooseFI International Foundation has been founded with the stated goal to spread financial literacy around the world. It is meant to serve as a way to reach people that really need this information.

The foundation has been developing over the last several months. One of the leading pieces is centered around bringing FI to the military by developing a curriculum to help people who serve get on the path to FI.

Listen: A Military Path To FI

Another key component is a curriculum for communities, an FI 101 course. The goal is for community members to take that information and share it with family and friends.

Partnerships are being formed with organizations that have similar goals. For example, Junior Achievement with over 100 years of advocacy for financial literacy in school is providing volunteer opportunities for our community.

Ed has helped to set up ChooseFI International Foundation to do some good in the world. This can only be possible with your help.

If you are interested in getting involved, then please let us know at ChooseFI.com/help.

Related Episodes

New to FI? Be sure to check out Episode 100: Welcome To The FI Community!